I have what might be a wild idea for achieving AGI, and I’m curious what this community thinks. The Basic Concept Instead of scaling a single AI system, what if we created a society of AI agents working together like scientists? Here’s the experiment: Build a simulated universe with real physics (quantum mechanics + relativity) Give AI agents the ability to observe and experiment in this universe Challenge them to figure out the fundamental laws - WITHOUT telling them the equations They have to debate, test hypotheses, and reach consensus like real scientists Why This Is Different Current AI is great at pattern recognition but struggles with genuine understanding and creative theory-building. But human science advances through communities of researchers arguing, testing, and refining ideas together. What if AGI emerges not from a single super-intelligent system, but from multiple AI agents recursively contradicting and learning from each other? The Physics Discovery Challenge This isn’t about teaching AI known physics. It’s about whether they can: Invent the necessary mathematics (like Newton invented calculus) Make conceptual breakthroughs (like Einstein’s thought experiments) Unify different observations into elegant theories Actually UNDERSTAND rather than just memorize If they can derive quantum mechanics and relativity from observations alone, that’s genuine scientific intelligence. Why I’m Excited About This Clear success criteria
- They either derive the right equations or they don’t Interpretable
- We can watch the agents debate in plain language Feasible
- Can start with simple toy universes for ~$0 Safe
- Sandboxed simulation, no internet, transparent reasoning Novel
- No one has tested multi-agent systems on fundamental physics discovery The Philosophical Angle This is also testing David Bohm’s theory about consciousness emerging from the interplay between an “implicate order” (underlying reality) and “explicate order” (individual manifestations). The agents share the same underlying model (implicate) but are separate instances (explicate). If consciousness/intelligence emerges from this dynamic, we should see it. What I Need I’m at the “convincing people this is worth trying” stage. Seeking: Feedback on whether this makes sense People interested in collaborating Suggestions for funding or compute access Reasons why this might fail (so I can address them) Status I’ve written a full research proposal with methodology, evaluation metrics, and theoretical grounding. Ready to start building proof-of-concept experiments. What do you think? Am I crazy or is this worth pursuing? submitted by /u/Helpful_Agency_7168
Originally posted by u/Helpful_Agency_7168 on r/ArtificialInteligence